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Romans 8:38-39

Nothing Can Separate Us

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For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will be able to separate us from God’s love which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:38-39 World English Bible, British Edition

What does Romans 8:38-39 mean?

Romans 8:38-39 is Paul's confident promise that nothing in all creation can cut a believer off from God's love in Christ. Not death, not the powers of evil, not the worst of what today or tomorrow holds. Once you belong to Jesus, that love holds you, and nothing has the strength to break its grip.

Paul was not writing this from a comfortable study. The believers in Rome were under real pressure, and he himself knew prison, beatings and the constant possibility of death. So when he reaches for the longest list of dangers he can think of, he is not being dramatic. He is naming the things that were actually trying to pull that little church apart.

And then he says none of them can. “For I am persuaded,” he begins, and the word matters. He is not crossing his fingers and hoping for the best. He has thought hard, suffered much, and come out the other side certain. Death cannot do it. Life, with all its slow griefs, cannot do it. Angels, powers, the unseen forces people feared most, none of them has the reach.

He keeps piling them up, almost as if he is daring the universe to produce something he has missed. Things present and things to come, so your past and your future are both covered. Height and depth, the very top of the sky and the bottom of the sea, so there is nowhere you could be carried that lies outside the love that holds you. Then the catch-all: “nor any other created thing.” If God made it, it answers to him, and it cannot break his grip on you.

Notice it does not promise these things will not come. They came to Paul. They may come to you. What it promises is that they cannot separate you from “God’s love which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” The love is fixed to a person, and that person has already gone through death and out the other side. That is why Paul is so sure.

So if you feel as though you are slipping, as though your grief or your failure or sheer exhaustion is loosening your hold on God, read this again and let the direction reverse. The point was never how tightly you are holding on. It is how tightly he is holding you. And nothing that exists can change that.

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A letter to a church Paul had never visited

One thing I always tell people about Romans is that Paul wrote it before he had ever set foot in the city. He says as much early on, that he had often planned to come and been kept from it (Romans 1:13). So this is not a man writing to people he had baptised and pastored for years. He is introducing himself by letter, laying out the gospel from start to finish, hoping believers he has mostly never met will read it and recognise the same Lord they already love.

That changes how I hear these closing verses. By the time Paul reaches the end of chapter 8, he has taken the reader through sin, the law, grace, the Spirit and the groaning of creation. This is not a throwaway line tacked on to round things off. It is the high point he has been climbing towards. The church in Rome was a mix of Jewish and Gentile believers in the capital of an empire that had no interest in protecting them, and Paul wanted them to know, before he arrived, exactly how secure they already were.

A conviction that already stands

It is worth slowing down on the verb, because in the Greek it sits in the perfect tense. That points to a settled, finished state rather than a mood that rises and fades. Paul is not reporting that he feels convinced this morning. He is saying he has been brought to a conviction that now holds firm. Something persuaded him, and the persuading is over and done.

The other thing I would not want to rush past is the shape of the list. Several of the items arrive as opposites: death and life, things present and things to come. He is reaching for the far edges in both directions, before and after, this side of the grave and the other, and refusing to leave a gap. Then comes the phrase I find does the quiet heavy lifting: “nor any other created thing.” That is the hinge of the whole sentence. Everything he has named, and everything he has not thought to name, shares one feature. It is made. None of it is the Maker, so none of it can outrank the love that brought it into being in the first place.

A love with an address

Notice where Paul finally puts the love. Not in the air around us, as if it were a warm climate we hope to stay inside, but “in Christ Jesus our Lord”, fastened to a person with a name and a history.

This runs back a long way. Israel knew a God who kept covenant, who promised through Isaiah that his steadfast love would not depart even if the mountains did (Isaiah 54:10). What Paul announces is where that love now lives. It lives in Christ, who went down into death and came up out of it, which is the very thing Paul has just leaned on a few lines earlier, where Christ is raised and now intercedes for us (Romans 8:34). So when he says death cannot separate us, he is not bracing himself against the dark and hoping. He is pointing at the one place death has already lost. The love holds because the person it lives in could not be held by the grave.

The day I put the measuring tape down

What this passage did in my own life was take a measuring tape out of my hands. There have been stretches, after a death in the family, in the flat grey of exhaustion, when I could not feel God at all, and I caught myself grading my faith by how strong it felt before breakfast. Weak feeling, I assumed, meant something had worked loose.

The list is long, I think, so that everyone eventually finds their own trouble somewhere in it. Things present: the bill I cannot pay, the results I am waiting on. Things to come: the news I am dreading. Paul has already ruled every one of them unable to separate me from God. Slowly I have learnt to stop asking whether I am holding on well enough and to ask instead who is doing the holding. On the worst nights that is the only sentence I have left, and it turns out to be plenty. He has not let go.

The two posts the whole chapter hangs between

Read this verse next to the one that opens the chapter and something clicks into place. Romans 8 begins with a verdict: there is now no condemnation for anyone who is in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:1). It ends here, with the promise that nothing in all creation can separate them from his love. The whole chapter is strung between those two posts, no condemnation at the start and no separation at the close, and everything in the middle is held safely in between.

That is also why the list runs so long. Paul is not padding the sentence out to make it sound grand. He is walking slowly round the room of everything a frightened person dreads, death, the unseen powers, the future that has not arrived yet, and naming each one out loud so that none of them gets left standing in the shadows. He means it to be exhaustive. He wants the most anxious reader to find their own particular fear somewhere on the list and realise he has already reached it and ruled it out before they could.

Held in a hand, not holding on to one

There is a picture Jesus gives that sits right underneath these verses. He says of his sheep that he gives them life that does not end, that they will never perish, and that no one is able to snatch them out of his hand, and then he adds that the Father’s hand is greater still (John 10:28-29). Two hands closed around one small, easily frightened creature.

Notice what the sheep is never asked to do. It is not told to grip back hard enough to keep itself safe. Its whole security lies in whose hands it is in. I think of a small child being walked across a busy road. The child might be clinging on tightly, or might have gone limp with tiredness, and either way it makes no real difference to whether it gets across, because the safety was never in the child’s little fist. It was in the parent’s. Paul is saying the same thing in plainer words. The question to ask is not how firm your own hold is this morning, but whose hold you are already in.

The one thing Paul's list never mentions

Paul names nine things before he reaches for the catch-all, and they share something easy to miss. Death, life, angels, principalities, things present, things to come, powers, height, depth: every one of them comes at a believer from outside. What never appears is you. Your own unbelief is not there. Neither is a person quietly deciding they have had enough.

I mention it because I have heard these verses used to close down a conversation they were never built to have. Someone is worried sick about a friend who drifted years ago and lives now as though none of it were ever true, and Romans 8:38 to 39 gets reached for as though it settles the matter. Paul is answering a different fear. He is telling a frightened church that no outside power, however large, can prise God’s love away from someone who is in Christ. Whether a person can walk out of that relationship of their own will is a question Christians have argued over for centuries, and I am not going to pretend this sentence decides it, because it never raises it. Use these verses to steady the fearful. Do not stretch them to settle your mind about someone who has drifted, because that borrows an authority the words were never given, and it tends to stop you praying for them.

The closing argument, not the opening one

This is not where Paul’s case starts. It is where it lands, and a talk that opens here without the run-up will sound like an assertion rather than a verdict. Back up to verse 31, where the question is put plainly: if God is for us, who can be against us? Verse 32 reasons from the greater to the lesser, that God did not spare his own Son, so what would he now hold back? Verses 33 and 34 turn it into a courtroom. Who brings the charge, who passes the sentence, when God is the one who justifies and Christ is the one interceding?

Only then does Paul move from accusation to circumstance. Verse 35 names hardships with no comfort in them at all, and in verse 36 he lays a quotation from Psalm 44:22 over the top of them, setting those believers in a long line of God’s people who have been here before. Verse 37 is the answer: “more than conquerors”, not spared any of it, never mastered by it. So by the time you arrive at “I am persuaded”, it is Paul’s verdict on an argument he has just finished making, not a fresh claim starting cold. Preach it in that order. Thirty seconds on verses 31 to 37 before you read verse 38, and the persuasion carries the weight of everything underneath it.

Words to send people out with

I would reach for this passage as a sending: the last thing said before people walk out into whatever the week holds, or spoken over someone leaving for something frightening, a diagnosis, a house sold, a posting nobody feels ready for. It sits well near communion too. Say it just before the bread, since the table is the one place in the service where the entire point is that Christ has already been given, and given for good.

Where I would not reach for it is in the middle of a church row, the kind where someone leaving might be the wisest thing they ever do. I have heard “nothing can separate us” turned, gently and with every good intention, into pressure to stay put, as though walking away from an unsafe elder were the same as walking away from God’s love. Paul’s list is death and angels and powers. It says nothing at all about which building you sit in on a Sunday. If you are reading these verses over a congregation that is hurting, name that distinction out loud, because someone in the room is already making it in their head and quietly wondering whether they are allowed to.

Paul offers to be the exception to his own sentence

Turn the page and the ink is barely dry. Chapter 8 ends on the highest note in the whole letter, and chapter 9 opens with Paul in open grief, saying he has great sorrow and unceasing pain in his heart for his kinsmen according to the flesh, and that he could wish himself accursed, cut off from Christ, for their sake (Romans 9:1-3).

Sit with what he has just done. He has spent a chapter proving that nothing created can separate us from God’s love in Christ. Then, in the next breath, he volunteers for exactly that, if it would get his own people in. He does not offer it as a live option, and I do not think he imagines for a moment it could be accepted. But he means it enough to swear to it.

I resisted this for years, because it seemed to take back what I had just been handed. If the separation is unthinkable, why is Paul thinking about it out loud? What I have come to believe is that the two belong together the way they do in any half-decent parent. Being certain of your own place at the table is not what makes you selfish about it. It is what frees you to want it for somebody else more than you want it for yourself. Paul’s assurance did not settle him down. It made him reckless.

The word Caesar's city already had a use for

“Lord” has gone soft on us. It is a churchy word now, the kind that slides past without catching on anything. In the Greek it is kyrios, and it was an ordinary word doing ordinary work: the man who owned your labour, the master of the house, sir. It was also, in the Greek-speaking half of the empire, a word people were beginning to reach for when they spoke about the emperor. I would not want to overstate that. It was not a fixed imperial title in Nero’s day, and you can find it attached to plenty of men who were not Caesar. But the overlap was there, and nobody hearing this letter read aloud in a rented room in Rome needed it explained to them whose name usually sat behind that kind of language in that city.

So when Paul finishes the whole climb with “in Christ Jesus our Lord”, he is doing more than adding a reverent flourish to a good sentence. He is telling a small, nervous, mostly poor congregation, sitting inside the capital, that the last word over their living and their dying belongs to somebody the capital did not appoint and cannot recall.

There is something else here I cannot settle, and I would rather admit it than fudge it. The word behind “principalities” turns up elsewhere in the New Testament for perfectly ordinary human authorities: Titus 3:1 uses it of rulers you are told to obey, Luke 12:11 of the ones who haul you in for questioning. Whether Paul meant unseen powers here, or magistrates and informers and the man with the writ, or flatly refused to draw the line, I honestly cannot tell you. It may be the wrong question to ask him. The list is trying to be total. Whatever kind of power frightens you, seen or unseen, in a uniform or not, it is already in the sentence and it has already been ruled out.

Height and depth might not mean up and down at all

I want to hand you this one at arm’s length, because I am not sure of it and I would rather say so than dress a maybe up as a fact. The Greek words under “height” and “depth” are hypsoma and bathos, and people who know the ancient sources far better than I ever will have long pointed out that both were at home in the language of astrology, marking where a star stood at the peak of its power over a life and where it sank away out of it.

If that is what is in Paul’s mind, and I cannot tell you whether it is, then he is not stretching for the top of the sky and the bottom of the sea as a piece of poetry. He is looking straight at one of the most ordinary fears of the ancient world: that the arrangement of the sky on the night you were born had already written down what your life would come to, and there was no appeal against it. That fear has not gone anywhere. It only changed clothes. It reads as a diagnosis now, or a postcode, or a family you did not choose, some fixed thing set in place long before you had a say, quietly deciding how far you were ever going to get.

Either way the sentence holds, which is the part I find steadying. Paul’s last clause does the work without any help from the astrology. Whatever height and depth turn out to be, they are made things, and made things do not get a vote on whether God loves you.

The word I stumble on is not death, it is "us"

Anyone who holds on to this verse long enough arrives at the same question at two in the morning, and it is never about angels. It is: how do I know I am inside the “us”? Paul does not say nothing can separate anyone from God’s love. He says nothing can separate us from the love that is in Christ Jesus. The promise is bolted to those two small markers, and if you are not sure which side of them you stand on, then the longer the list runs the further away it drifts.

Death, principalities, powers: none of those ever frightened me, not really. They were too large and too far off to keep me awake. What kept me awake was a much smaller and much worse thought, which was that all of this was true, gloriously true, and written about somebody else.

I do not have a clean way to shut that down for you, and I have stopped trying, because every clean answer I ever handed anyone bounced straight off them. What I will say is that Paul does not leave the question hanging in this chapter, though he answers it somewhere I would never have thought to look. Further back in the same argument he says the Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God (Romans 8:16). Not that we work it out and present our findings. That it gets told to us, from somewhere that is not us. So if you are lying there wanting to be in the “us”, I would not read that wanting as evidence you are out. I cannot promise you it is proof you are in, either. But I would take the question to the person the love is fastened to rather than back into your own chest, because your chest is not where the evidence is kept.

A hymn that gave up counting, and a list that never was

There is a hymn, “The Love of God”, whose final verse everybody remembers long after the rest has gone: ink made from the whole ocean, the sky rolled flat for parchment, every stalk on earth cut down into a pen, and the writing still not finished. The story usually told is that the stanza is far older than the hymn and older than English, that it came in from a mediaeval Aramaic poem and only got its tune centuries later. I have seen that repeated in enough places to half believe it and not in enough of the right places to swear to it, so take it exactly as I have it.

I love that verse. I have sung it badly and at volume. But set it beside Paul and something odd surfaces, because the two are not doing the same job at all. The hymn is measuring. It runs out of ocean and concedes that the love is bigger than anything you could ever write it down with. Paul never measures. Not once in these two verses does he tell you how large God’s love is, which is what I spent years assuming he was doing. He tells you what cannot get at it.

That difference has done more for me than any amount of ocean and ink. Being told God’s love is vast never helped me at three in the morning, because I could believe it was vast and still quietly believe it was vast somewhere else, spent on people who were managing better than I was. Paul is not standing back admiring the size of the thing. He is going down the list of everything in creation that has hands, naming them one at a time, and saying: that cannot reach you. Nor that. Nor the one you have not thought of yet.

Questions to sit with
  • Where am I quietly grading my standing with God by how strong my faith feels, rather than by how firmly he holds me?
  • Which item on Paul’s list, present or still to come, am I most afraid could cut me off, and what changes when I let Paul’s verdict sit over it?
  • The love has an address, “in Christ Jesus”: does my sense of being loved rest on him and his rising, or on how well I am performing?
  • Who in my life feels far from God just now, and how could I carry this assurance to them this week?

If you would like to stay with this a while longer, you might read on through the rest of Paul’s letter at /bible/romans/ or sit with something gentler on the days the feelings run dry at /bible-verses-for-how-you-feel/.

Verses that speak to this

  • I give eternal life to them. They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father who has given them to me is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand.

    John 10:28-29

  • Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Could oppression, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

    Romans 8:35

  • For God so loved the world, that he gave his only born Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    John 3:16 →
  • If I ascend up into heaven, you are there. If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, you are there!

    Psalm 139:8

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